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tsafar Posted: 02-11-2007 5:40 AM
Goodmorning,
 
                        I recently purchased a DVB-S TechnoTrend budget 1500 card from DVB shop in order to watch pay tv (irdeto encoding) through Microsoft Media Center! I followed the enclosed instructions and i managed to configure it! The problem is that, eventhought i can watch pay TV i have a problem with the channel order. When i finished the scan through MCE i went to the EDIT CHANNEL menu to select the encrypted channels and then to the CHANGE CHANNEL ORDER menu to place them in order. After one hour with out any problems the MCE resets all the changes i made to the above menus to the initial state (meaning as they were after scan)! That means that i have to rearrange the channels all over again (we are talking about 50 channels) and this happens constantly! I am writting to you without knowing if the problem is caused by MCE . For all i know it could be TT's fault or its software (ttautodecoder-dvbmapper etc)! I only hope that you have come accross i similar problem in the past and that you might know a way arround it.
 
 
Thank you in advance!
 
Christos
 
ps.  It seems tha MCE after the scan it keeps scanning for services in the backround while watching Live TV. Adding a new channel in the list results to the above mess in the channels lineup! I believe that if there is a way to stop that "backround scanning" or limit the channels that can be added in MCE might do the trick! Maybe a reg hack?
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Garry [WMA] replied on 02-12-2007 10:44 PM
Havent seen this efore but one thought occurs to me. You could use Ian's MCE Backup immediately after first setting up your channels correctly and then restore them once they have gone wrong. Hopefully then if this background scan is completed it will retain them. If not perhaps we could ask Ian to write a scheduled cahnnel restore option.

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tsafar replied on 02-13-2007 7:41 AM

Hello,

 Thanks for your answer Garry! Others have this problem also! http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?query=mce+channel+order&dg=&cat=en_US_d02fc761-3f6b-402c-82f6-ba1a8875c1a7&lang=en&cr=&pt=&catlist=&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us ! Take a look at the "adding channels automatically" post! Your idea is not bad and it seems to me that is the only way for now! But it is a half measure. I hope that a fix will come up for this issue! It also could be my DVB-S card fault! I don't know!

Thanks again

 

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Richard Miller replied on 02-13-2007 4:58 PM

Iam in the US and I had a problem with ATSC(which is fixed), if you are in the UK can go into C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\eHome\EPG (the folder will be hidden so you have to show hidden file) there sould be XML files in that folder three(there in the US).

Open the XML file and copy and paste and post them here, there may be be way to lock channels in there, post them and the names of the folders in the in EPG folder.

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tsafar replied on 02-14-2007 8:32 AM

Hello Richard,

                      I am in Greece! There is no guide support in my region! i have had to enable the guide in order to be able to select encrypted channels and place them in order! In the folder you 've mentioned above there is a file prefs.xml only! I will post its contents tonight! I 've tried a lot of things with that file. First i tried to make it read-only, i even enabled the file security features and removed the write access rights from administrators group , system..etc! nothing worked! The file never actually changed but in the media center app i had the same problems! it kept adding channels and messing my channel list and order! By the way Garry the MCE backup didn't work ether! When i tried a restore it didn't restore my channel list!   :(

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tsafar replied on 02-15-2007 1:45 PM

I am posting the exact content of the prefs.xml you asked 

 

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  </p>
  </presets>
  </lineup>
  </lineups>

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Richard Miller replied on 02-15-2007 11:32 PM

This could be a problem to fix but we will give it a shot.
If someone had another copy of DVB-S (US does not have it) would help (Ian do you have one).
Somethings I see in your XML file.

1. Channel 37 to 42 and 43 to 47 and so no look the same do you have all those channels(37 to 42) are they the same channel?
2. virtualchannelnumber="0" are all "0" not sure if they need to be or not.
3. What happens if copy the XML file to CD or flash Drive, then delete the xml file from the pc and download a new Guide does the xml file come      back in the EGP foler after you have downloaded the new guide?

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tsafar replied on 02-16-2007 6:36 AM
Richard Miller:

This could be a problem to fix but we will give it a shot.
If someone had another copy of DVB-S (US does not have it) would help (Ian do you have one).
Somethings I see in your XML file.

1. Channel 37 to 42 and 43 to 47 and so no look the same do you have all those channels(37 to 42) are they the same channel?
2. virtualchannelnumber="0" are all "0" not sure if they need to be or not.
3. What happens if copy the XML file to CD or flash Drive, then delete the xml file from the pc and download a new Guide does the xml file come      back in the EGP foler after you have downloaded the new guide?

 

  There is no EPG support in my region! Before that DVB-S tuner i was using an analog one! I remember that i had to enable the guide to be able to place my channels in order! that was it! If i try to download i get the message that there is no support in my region! Yesterday i removed the rollup 2 update and i actually watched for 8 hours until the MCE (once again) reset my channels! at least i dont get any duplicates now! Today i 'll try a clean install! i want you to know that all your efforts are greatlly appreciated and any ideas are welcome!

 Thanks

 

 

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Richard Miller replied on 02-16-2007 3:08 PM
You said " dont get any duplicates now! "   which channels give me the numbers , is it the same duplicates in the old  xml file? has your xml changed from the old one you posted?

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tsafar replied on 02-16-2007 3:20 PM

Hi,

 

I am in the middle of a format right now but if you check the xml contents above you can see that FILMNET1 for example is 5 or six times. As i said it seems like MCE is making a scan in the backround when you watch live tv. When it adds new channels it messes up the channels order! After i removed Rollup 2 it didn't add any channels but after 8 hours it messed the channel lineup once more!

 

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  <s name="FILMNET1" call_sign="FILMNET1" affiliation="" id="50500:318:5500:317" virtualchannelnumber="0" sourceId="1654769127" />
  </p>
- <p number="116">
  <s name="FILMNET1" call_sign="FILMNET1" affiliation="" id="50500:318:5500:317" virtualchannelnumber="0" sourceId="1654769127" />
  </p>
- <p number="117">
  <s name="FILMNET1" call_sign="FILMNET1" affiliation="" id="50500:318:5500:317" virtualchannelnumber="0" sourceId="1654769127" />
  </p>
- <p number="118">
  <s name="FILMNET1" call_sign="FILMNET1" affiliation="" id="50500:318:5500:317" virtualchannelnumber="0" sourceId="1654769127" />
  </p>
- <p number="119">
  <s name="FILMNET1" call_sign="FILMNET1" affiliation="" id="50500:318:5500:317" virtualchannelnumber="0" sourceId="1654769127" />
  </p>
- <p number="120">
  <s name="FILMNET1" call_sign="FILMNET1" affiliation="" id="50500:318:5500:317" virtualchannelnumber="0" sourceId="1654769127" />
  </p>

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