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As you will see on TheGreenButton.com Microsoft’s have moved to clarify the situation around the Media Center update formally know as fiji.

I know the main bone of contention will be the availability of the update which is OEM Microsoft's Ben Read explains the reason as:

In order to ensure that users get the best experience possible, this update will only be available from OEMs, as they are best positioned to provide the testing and hardware configurations for a great customer experience. This is due to the fact that in some geographies there are specific technical and hardware requirements for the Windows Media Center TV Pack that are best handled by the OEMs

I am sure enthusiast community will be very disappointed with this decision especially as there are feature the community has been waiting for in the update. 

Here are the official list of new features:

The Windows Media Center TV Pack is primarily targeted at adding support for additional international broadcast standards including:
o   Integrated Services Digital Broadcasting - Terrestrial (ISDB-T) Digital television standard for Japan
o   Digital Video Broadcasting - Satellite (DVB-S) free-to-air satellite standards  in  Europe
o   Digital Video Broadcasting - Terrestrial (DVB-T) digital television with  improved user experience in Europe
o   ClearQAM (Unencrypted Digital Cable)in the United States
o   Interactive television with integrated Broadcast Markup language
(BML) in Japan and Multimedia and Hypermedia information coding Expert Group (MHEG) (MHEG5) in Europe

I have only been able to test DVB-T and the update has added subtitles, MHEG support, inband guide data and favourites which are nice features and do improve the experience but I can’t say I would be that upset to go back to the standard build

What is not included in the update is H.264 and native support for subscription-based satellite tuners which were pulled from the beta, there are no reasons given for the late removal of this feature and no information on when and if it will be supported in the future

The other major change is the TV file format, out goes DVR-MS and in comes WTV. My non fiji machines would not play the new format and as I share content between machines that was a problem. Also the Zune software would not sync the WTV files to my Zune.

Overall there are a lot of nice little updates to the TV side of Media Center when the update is applied and it’s a shame it will not be available to all. Having played with the beta and had some pain with it I can see kind of see why Microsoft have gone down the OEM route but I still think its a missed opportunity to improve Media Center for the existing customer base especially as we have waited so long for the update. The silence around the beta has meant that fiji got built up to something it is not and will leave a lot of disappointed enthusiast in the community.

I should have more details on next weeks The Media Center Show

 

Here is the full text of the post

On July 16th, 2008, Microsoft released an update to the version of
Windows Media Center included with Windows Vista Home Premium and
Windows Vista Ultimate to our OEM partners - this update is referred to
as the "Windows(r) Media Center TV Pack". In order to ensure that users
get the best experience possible, this update will only be available
from OEMs, as they are best positioned to provide the testing and
hardware configurations for a great customer experience. This is due to
the fact that in some geographies there are specific technical and
hardware requirements for the Windows Media Center TV Pack that are best
handled by the OEMs. We are working closely with our OEM partners as
they finalize their decisions on Windows Media Center TV Pack products.
The Windows Media Center TV Pack is primarily targeted at adding support
for additional international broadcast standards including:
o   Integrated Services Digital Broadcasting - Terrestrial (ISDB-T)
Digital television standard for Japan
o   Digital Video Broadcasting - Satellite (DVB-S) free-to-air satellite
standards  in  Europe
o   Digital Video Broadcasting - Terrestrial (DVB-T) digital television
with  improved user experience in Europe
o   ClearQAM (Unencrypted Digital Cable)in the United States
o   Interactive television with integrated Broadcast Markup language
(BML) in Japan and Multimedia and Hypermedia information coding Expert
Group (MHEG) (MHEG5) in Europe
This version does not include native support for subscription-based
satellite tuners or the H.264 video standard. We test many features in
beta releases, and optimize our feature set in the final code for the
best user experience.
We do want the Windows Media Center community to know that Microsoft
will continue to improve upon the Windows Media Center experience for
our customers worldwide, by adding content partnerships and enhanced
features.  We will share these developments as they become available.


Posted Aug 08 2008, 06:30 PM by Ian Dixon

Comments

Nick wrote re: Microsoft post details on the Windows Media Center TV Pack
on 08-08-2008 7:08 PM
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A huge mistake and another missed opportunity by Microsoft.

Things haven't really changed since the original MCE have they?

ildocteur wrote re: Microsoft post details on the Windows Media Center TV Pack
on 08-08-2008 8:03 PM
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I have never heard anything as stupid as this.

The attituude that MS displays in this decision is even more arrogant that what we see from Apple. We know whats best for you and we will decide. I'll say that this is as close as MS get to pissing down the backs of an entustiastic community

The fact is that this will be the death of Mediacenter use in the Nordic countries that relies very much on subtitle support since we don't have any dubbing at all. So 90% of all content is subtitled.

Users that want to know about the features of the TVpack can google "MediaCenterTVPack_x86" that will provide some interessting links about the pack.

ildoc

Karl wrote re: Microsoft post details on the Windows Media Center TV Pack
on 08-08-2008 9:31 PM
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"Also the Zune software would not sync the WTV files to my Zune."

Hadn't tried that yet...  Wow, that's dumb!

pablo_paul wrote re: Microsoft post details on the Windows Media Center TV Pack
on 08-08-2008 9:58 PM
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I want

dvb-S/T support with H264

An online tv guide to schedule recordings remotely (just like webguide)

something similar to My Movies

What options have i got if i want to dump VMC?  The lack of an update for dvb-S/T support without having to reinstall vista and obtain  software from a non-legit source is a killer for me.

EZRyder wrote re: Microsoft post details on the Windows Media Center TV Pack
on 08-08-2008 11:39 PM
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So, in short, if your an MCE 2005 user, who's been sitting on the fence waiting for Vista to become 'stable' and to become THE HD media center, this news can be taken as.....wait for Windows 7 as Vista isn't as HD ready as it was implied.

David wrote re: Microsoft post details on the Windows Media Center TV Pack
on 08-09-2008 12:27 AM
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Yet another example of Microsoft's arrogance. They really do try very hard to upset and alienate their customer base. People just need to know there is an alternative and when the word (finally) gets out they will leave Microsoft in droves. As for all the "new" developments, my MythBuntu box does it all already!

Matt wrote re: Microsoft post details on the Windows Media Center TV Pack
on 08-11-2008 4:13 AM
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Why not allow enthusiasts to download and install at their own risk?  Limiting this to the OEM's is a mistake in my opinion.

I've been using Vista Ultimate for a while and Media Center has been very stable for me.  The few problems I have had are due to add-ins.  I use my xbox 360 as an extender and I have been pleased with the performance.

I would really like to see h.264 support added.  Also, how about implementing some features like Tivo offers such as recording shows similar to ones you have set to record.

rod70 wrote re: Microsoft post details on the Windows Media Center TV Pack
on 08-12-2008 6:57 PM
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Managed to obtain a copy of the update and installed it as per the enclosed instructions. I'd already installed SP1 and setup Media Center yet had no issues installing this update. At long last my wife (hard of hearing) can have subtitles and I can use the interactive text service. Both long awaited features that have been present on DVB-T for nearly 10 years and present on every £10 freeview box. I must say how quick the interactive text response is though. Fastest I've come accross. PIP and support for HD would have been a bonus but now the software does the basics I'll be sticking with this update. As my OEM (Evesham) went into administartion last year I had no hope of ever getting this update. I say put it out there with instructions and disclaimer then Microsoft have covered themselves. Personally if I still had MCE2005 and was told this was OEM only then I'd wait for Windows 7. It will be really interesting to see how the likes of Boxee (XBMC) develop over the next few years too. If some of these Linux software devs can include a TV tuner then Microsoft better be looking over their shoulder.

EZRyder wrote re: Microsoft post details on the Windows Media Center TV Pack
on 08-14-2008 7:11 PM
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The TV pack was mainly put out for the rest of the world to catch up with the US, what with the western world switching off analogue over the next few years. My main observation is, if this is OEM, but the consensus is that its aimed at smaller OEM's, which companies in the UK will adopt it? As rod70 said, Evesham has gone, Elonex who made my PC came and went and are sort of back again...there doesn't seem to be many options. I suppose we have to wait to see if the HP Touchsmart or Medion's from Aldi's step up to the mark.

Tarrant1701 wrote re: Microsoft post details on the Windows Media Center TV Pack
on 08-16-2008 12:32 AM
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Fiji's move to the WTV file format is going to be a pain due to lack of universality. I understand DVR-MS was abandoned for WTV as this wrapper is compatible with H.264 whereas the former was not (although H.264 support hasn't materialized). However by moving to WTV in Fiji, as things stand now it is unplayable by non-Fiji Vista systems, WinXP, WMP, VLC, VideoReDo, DVRMSToolbox, media extenders, XBOX 360 etc ... In essense, any show recorded in WTV will have to be played back on the Fiji machine. A good way to break a digital home and content sharing!

Ian's Digital Lifestyle wrote The Media Center Show #169 - Ed Bott on TV Feature Pack
on 08-20-2008 2:32 PM
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Listen Here (mp3) Looks like I forgot to post the latest show on this blog! So here it is and it's...

The Media Center Show #169 - Ed Bott on TV Feature Pack | Windows Home Theater wrote The Media Center Show #169 - Ed Bott on TV Feature Pack | Windows Home Theater
on 08-20-2008 4:05 PM
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Chip wrote re: Microsoft post details on the Windows Media Center TV Pack
on 08-26-2008 8:37 PM
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Any news on updating the Zune for the .wtv files?

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